from Russia Insider:

This podcast is from early April, but it couldn’t be more relevant today, as the curtain comes down exposing who really got the Russiahoax started. Cohen says plainly that all evidence points to Brennan and that the US has to reign in its out-of-control intelligence agencies, as was attemped, unsuccessfully, after the Vietnam war.

The half hour conversation covers a lot of ground, comparisons to the Vietnam era, the Church commission, Gulf of Tonkin. It is a genuine pleasure to hear these two highly iintelligent men discuss what is really going on in Washington. This political talk is head and shoulders above anything in the mainstream.

Listen to it here, or at LewRockwell.com

Rockwell has recorded hundreds of similar conversations with fascinating people. You can find a list of them on his site. There are some real gems in there. You can easily subscribe to them from most podcast smartphone apps.

Transcript:

Rockwell:  Well, good morning.  This is the Lew Rockwell Show.  And what a treat we have today to have Professor Stephen F. Cohen as our guest.  Professor Cohen is the author of many books.  I tried to count them.  I find it very difficult to get the number but it seems to me it’s probably more than the proverbial five-foot shelf of books.  Just extraordinary books on the Soviet Union, on Russia.  And he’s professor emeritus at Princeton University and at New York University.  His most recent book is War with Russia?.  And I like the quote he has at the bottom of the book, where he’s called “the most controversial Russia expert in America.”  We know what that means.  It means the most truth telling.  They don’t mean it that way but that’s what it does mean, the most truth-telling Russia expert.

So it’s just tremendous to have you, sir.

Cohen:  I’m very happy to be with you.  And I think both, as you know – though, undoubtably, I’m older than you are – I’m older than almost everybody – that –

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