Mike Adams: Welcome to today's interview here on Brighteon.com. And this is a really critical interview with a guest that was incredibly popular when I interviewed him remotely, it's Dr. Michael Nehls, and he's the author of this bombshell book that is a must read, it's called The Indoctrinated Brain. This is available at booksellers everywhere. And there's also an audio book version available. This is from Skyhorse Publishing. And Dr. Nehls now joins us in studio, he's made a trip to the United States and welcome to Texas, Dr. Nehls.

Dr. Michael Nehls: Thank you Mike, thank you very much for having me again. And I always listen, it's really a pleasure being here.

Mike Adams: It's great to have you here and the interview with you, it really altered my understanding of neurology, and also how people's brains and personalities and decision making has been hijacked and controlled by very dark forces. You want to give us a quick overview of what your book is about what your work your research is about.

Dr. Michael Nehls: Yeah So, my background is actually in immunology, I did a PhD work they're discovering by genetic research. And then and molecule that is responsible and required for the adaptive immune system, the way we essentially adapt to viruses and be more efficient in fighting them naturally, of course. And then I turned to another immune system, the mental immune system, which is essentially under attack when we develop Alzheimer's, when we lose our ability to think, to memorize, and, and many other attributes which are human and important for humans, to be curious and to go new ways and reflect on things. And, of course, our ability to memorize everything that we learn. And I also realized very soon that even for thinking when we need to, we still require that we are able to memorize. So, our whole individuality is dependent on memorization. So, I worked very hard on understanding what is necessary that we can memorize things throughout all our lives. Because Alzheimer's is not a natural development. It's absolutely unnatural and caused by our way of life, our modern way of life.

Mike Adams: While exposure to toxins and inflammatory factors or what?

 Dr. Michael Nehls: Exactly and also, even though we live kind of prosperous in the let's say, in the Global North, we still have a lot of deficiencies. Yeah, for example of vitamin D, which was actually exploited it in 2000 to develop a program that is unheard of, you know, this experimental vaccination program with genetic material was only possible because we have a deficiency in vitamin D. So, it is deficient in vitamin D, which I found out is also a cause or a cool factor in developing Alzheimer's. So, a level for example, with Alzheimer's is essentially its lowest likelihood in developing and the level that we have in Germany, for example, I have come from Germany. In the winter, we have like 25 nanomol, in summer, we have an average maybe 40 to 50. But the healthy rate would be 125. That is what we measure in tribes. For example, in Africa, you have people who live in the wild and lift naturally. This is in a natural way of living, not protected from the sun in houses not protected by sunscreen, right, not living too far in the north and having no food which supplies the vitamin D. We have a deficiency and between the 25 we measure in older people on average, and 125, which would be normal, we have a 70% increase of a risk and Alzheimer's.

Mike Adams: Yeah, I'm so glad you're covering this. I've been talking about vitamin D for 20 plus years and, and the chronic deficiency of vitamin D, but especially in North America and across Europe, those with darker skin pigmentation, right, because they have a natural sunscreen that blocks the production of vitamin D in their skin. And yet, you know, their ancestry, let's say a black American today, their ancestry might be from some country in Africa, where they were much closer to the equator started much higher exposure, and they were generating much more vitamin D. Now they're living indoors. They're working in an office environment, typically, let's say and nobody's explaining to them why cancer rates are higher among black Americans and why prostate cancer is more aggressive or breast cancers more aggressive.

Dr. Michael Nehls: Absolutely.

Mike Adams: So, but your focus on then the cognition affects that vitamin D deficiency causing Alzheimer’s.

Dr. Michael Nehls: It cause all time. It's not the cause of Alzheimer's, but it's one factor, one of many factors. And it's just one example of deficiencies that we have in our modern life about with the Law of the minimum applies, things that are lacking is our problem. But also, the law of the maximum applies if we eat things that are not healthy for us in higher quantities, sugar containing products, for example, leading to glycation of proteins and even the DNA in our cells. These glycation products lead to an activation of the immune system. When we talk, we call them advanced glycation end products, the receptors advanced glycation end products activates the immune system, because it's almost like you have a piece of wood in your skin, you know, it's something which shouldn't be there that the immune system tries to attack it got gets rid of it, we have a chronic inflammation, and chronic inflammation shuts down the relevant part of the relevant function of the autobiographical memory center where Alzheimer's starts. And I actually have a picture of that maybe we should maybe we should look so give…

Mike Adams: Please bring that up. We'll show that next. But one more comment. Before we get to that. I recall from our last interview, and I suppose I can only recall it because I don't have the highly inflammatory neuro destructive processes that you've referred to. But I recall that you said that the Hippocampus is the one region of the brain where neurogenesis continues to take place at any age.

Dr. Michael Nehls: Exactly.

Mike Adams: And I've been thinking about that there are many things that you said in the interview that really altered my understanding of the world around us. One of them being how easily that globalist forces can hijack human neurology in order to control people. And to induce things like fear as a means of control. There's sort of weaponizing our neurology against us. But in all the things that I have experienced in terms of learning at my age in my mid-50s, like, you know, learning doing Rubik's Cube solving, I do speak up now solve the cube, that would not be possible without the Hippocampus and neurogenesis, Correct?

Dr. Michael Nehls: Well, there are certain physical skills, you might be able to learn without it.

Mike Adams: No I mean cognitive.

Dr. Michael Nehls: Yeah, and because often example, that was one famous patient where which actually led to the discovery of the autobiographical memory, that being in the Hippocampus, and this patient, HM was his body was living, nobody was allowed to tell what the name really is. So, it was all the papers about him about HM, Henry Molaison. When he died later on, almost 50 years later, but he had epilepsy and it was not treatable anymore. So, the surgeon decided to remove this part of the brain where the epilepsy started to hear to commence and but by some reason that nobody understood he not only removed the part of the brain, which caused the epilepsy, he removed it on the other side, at the identical region. And the region heat is removed was the Hippocampus. From that moment on, Henry Molaison couldn't remember anything anymore. Nothing, but because it reminds me just of the cube, they were showing me. He was taught to play piano and he learned to play piano whenever…

Mike Adams: When he was at a younger age.

Dr. Michael Nehls: No, when he was had no autobiographical memory. And so, he learned piano and, but because he couldn't remember that he learned piano, he couldn't remember the event. The episodes when he learned because we call the autobiographical memory, also the episodic memory, he couldn't remember the episodes of learning.

Mike Adams: So, he had the skill of playing the piano. But I know the memory of having attained.

Dr. Michael Nehls: whenever he played for and he was asked, how can you play so well, and that I'm a genius. I never learned it.

Mike Adams: No kidding. Wow. Okay. Well, your presentation, and I know you have some critical slides.

Dr. Michael Nehls: I just want to show maybe because most people don't know what the Hippocampus actually is. And we talked about it and maybe they have to look it up. But it might be nice to show people.

Mike Adams: okay, yeah, you go, you start with I'm going to solve the cube while you do that, how about that? So, you start with the presentation, let's show his slide there. Go ahead.

Dr. Michael Nehls: It's just a few slides. So, you have to think about it when you look here at this picture, this is a brain and what you see here to let's say, orange-colored structures, which are actually the Hippocampus. It's all autobiographical memories and on without the Hippocampus, we couldn't remember anything that we have ever experienced, right? And so, the all these memories all our personal experiences are essentially the basis of our individuality, and this is what this slide shows. And it also shows across why the Hippocampus is named Hippocampus because when you actually look at it from an anatomical, more an anatomical view, it really looks like a seahorse.

Mike Adams: Oh, really that’s the name?

Dr. Michael Nehls: That's called Hippocampus. That's actually the, the, the scientific name of seahorse’s Hippocampus. So anyway, in the Hippocampus, he already mentioned it and I mentioned in our last talk the all the functions of the...

Mike Adams: [Presents solved Rubik's Cube.] Okay, there it is.

Dr. Michael Nehls: Wow you impressed me now.

Mike Adams: Oh, really?

Dr. Michael Nehls: Because I tried it once. And it really, I don't think I solved it anyway.

Mike Adams: Well, I'm competing against the kids that do it in in 10 seconds, though.

Dr. Michael Nehls: Yeah. Okay,

Mike Adams: because they have little alien fingers that just like that, so I'm never going to beat those kids.

Dr. Michael Nehls: But might the brain is like a sponge. But be honest, these cells that I'm showing here, this is a piece of the Hippocampus here. And this is from animals, which are actually old animals, like two-year-old mice that are correspond to an 80-year-old human. Mice only get about two years old really old and they die of age. So, they have a very fast, fast life. So, to speak…

Mike Adams: we call them index neurons.

Dr. Michael Nehls: We call them index neurons. These neurons, which you see the green ones here, these are staying because they have certain features, they are newborn, they are newly born in the adult stage. So, if you are like eight years old, and you produce slowly cells in humans, it's possible about 1.5% of all Hippocampus cells can be generated new every year, added to the Hippocampus. And you need these cells because otherwise you wouldn't be able to memorize new things without overwriting previous experience. And these nerve cells are required to retrieve the information once you have stored them. So, every day you store information in the Hippocampus. And you store when you have learned something, what you have learned, where you have learned it, and how it felt very important, the emotional, without emotion, you wouldn't memorize anything. Emotion is really the key for things to enter the Hippocampus and stay there.

Mike Adams: So, this is why strongly emotional events make a much stronger imprint on the neural networks

Dr. Michael Nehls: Actually, used against us, you have the fear mongering, then everything would be memorized, and if you memorize it without the presence of index neurons, then you start overriding.

Mike Adams: This also, I think, doesn't explain why so much of marketing and advertising is all emotional.

Dr. Michael Nehls: Absolutely.

Mike Adams: But instead of informational. They're not telling you, oh, here's a car, and here's the cars properties. And here's why it's better now, it's just, you should feel good. And then here's a car.

Dr. Michael Nehls: Exactly. So, the what you have to experience and the emotion doesn't stay in the Hippocampus every night is uploaded into neocortical, let's say, hard drive ran only the location and the time stamp of the memory stays in the Hippocampus. And this time, and the location neurons, the space neurons, the time and the space neurons, they together form an index for the memory that has been uploaded and be retrieved again.

Mike Adams: Oh, interesting.

Dr. Michael Nehls: and these time and space neurons. These are the green ones you see here. They are newly born all that every year. And they essentially are required to memorize when and where we have learned something. So, if you're blocked this production, you stop memorizing things. And if you block it for a long term, that's what you see in Alzheimer patients, they suddenly don't know how to get home again, from where they have been.

Mike Adams: Let me ask you something.

Dr. Michael Nehls: They have no feeling anymore for time and space.

Mike Adams: I often listen to audiobooks when I'm doing work on my ranch. I might be driving a tractor, driving a vehicle. And then I hear something in the book. My brain ties it to that location. Because the next time I come back to that spot, I involuntarily recall what I heard from the book when I was at that same spot. Is that kind of what you're talking about?

Dr. Michael Nehls: Exactly. I remember for about two and a half years ago, when I was working on this puzzle of what was happening to us the source of the world society in the last four years since 2020. And I spent two years figuring it out. And I didn't come up with the final idea. And I remember it was almost like yesterday, I stepped out of a shower in a vacation home we had in the Cross Island in the Mediterranean, my wife and I because in fact from a hiker took a shower while thinking about this whole issue what has happened in the last four years. And I can tell you on which step of the, of the staircase when I went down, I had, suddenly the idea how everything fitted together.  How to solve the problem, the auditor did the puzzle, actually. How all the puzzle pieces, which individually didn't make any sense, suddenly came together seamless and I had a complete picture in front of me. And that's what actually led me to write this book.

Mike Adams: And so that realization was so emotionally positive for you that it was imprinted.

Dr. Michael Nehls: It's unbelievable. I mean, every second of the thought process was there and it's tied emotionally to this staircase in this vacation home.

Mike Adams: Wow, what an incredible memory. But you know, there's something else I want to ask you in all of this, we'll get into more slides. But right now, the world is really being entertained by AI, large language model systems. In fact, we're working on an LLM project ourselves too, for alternative knowledge about health and nutrition and so on. But people are so amazed by the neural network in silicon, but they forget about the neural network in here.

Dr. Michael Nehls: Absolutely.

Mike Adams: You know, it's like, these companies are willing to spend trillions of dollars open AI has announced a $7 trillion investment, I think in in video microchips and everything. But and then people want to throw money at that invest in it, but they don't want to invest in their own neural network, which is free. It's free. And it's a supercomputer.

Dr. Michael Nehls: Yeah, and premise that I will learn to think better and better, while our thinking abilities will drop and drop. And the more these AI technologies will take over thinking for us

Mike Adams: Exactly.

Dr. Michaels Nehls: Unless, we will be able to do it ourselves.

Mike Adams: That's right, people will sort of use the AI systems as their cognitive surrogates.

Dr. Michael Nehls: Yeah. I mean, these are space cells, you know, and they remember when we did something, but if you just travel around with your car, and you just use the GPS system, and you don't watch any more for signs and signals, and anything, you just follow this screen, you have a completely different experience and you don't memorize essentially, as well as you did decades ago, when these systems were not present, where you are and where you have been and how it felt to be there and we lose a lot with technology, we lose, essentially the connection to nature.

Mike Adams: Absolutely. Yeah. That's what I mean, I forced myself to go into nature every single day with my animals. I walk my goats, actually, they love to walk with me, and we go through the forest, everything. But there's another angle of all of this that I want to bring up, which is that in western medicine, it is a presumption that cognitive decline is a natural function. So, they say, Oh, it's just old age now. But that's not an explanation.

Dr. Michael Nehls: No, it's totally wrong. I published a paper peer reviewed in 2016. It's called the “Unified Theory of Alzheimer's disease.” And there I show that it's all the age aging is just a prerequisite because it takes decades for the disease to develop. But that doesn't mean it's the cause.

Mike Adams: Not the cause, its a factor.

Dr. Michael Nehls: It hasn't, it's not the cause it’s the fact. In fact, when Alzheimer's, yeah, always Alzheimer in 1906 published his paper, he actually identified it as a weird disease. He didn't see something like this before. And I can tell you people age 70 to 80 years at the time already, in large quantities, sufficient quantities that we should have seen hundreds of thousands of Alzheimer cases, if the rates of Alzheimer's have been like today. And in fact, in textbooks of 1940 - 1945, big textbooks of neuropathology, the Alzheimer's disease wasn't even mentioned. And today, it's a leading disease so that something has changed last decades, the last 50, 60, 70 years. And I can tell you what happened. We have a decline in the production of exactly these nerve cells, these index neurons are not produced anymore, and they don't protect us anymore if they are not there. And they are our mental health system essentially.

Mike Adams: Wow. So, what is interfering with the neurogenesis production of these index?

Dr. Michael Nehls: I will come to the odds of this question in a second. I actually have a slide

Mike Adams: Okay, please.

Dr. Michael Nehls: But I would like to show you first why they are so important to us. They are not only important for us that we memorize things individually and can separate one information from another one. For example, when we have to think, they're very important that we when we develop a thought, we have many alternative thoughts in our brain. Sometimes they only slightly different thought one from thought by thought be see when we resolve a problem, and we have to decide maybe later on which of the thoughts is the one we will follow. So, it's almost like an evolutionary process, we have all these ideas that pop up in our brain, we have to memorize these pop-up ideas, instantaneously and long term. And the only part of her brain that can do is our autobiographical memories, and the Hippocampus can do that. So, we wouldn't be able to develop any idea, any plan any, it wouldn't be able to process and evolve any constructive model of anything if we hadn't had the cells.

Mike Adams: But that brings up a really important point since these cells are being suppressed. And many of us notice across society that people are suffering. Personality changes there losing rationality, I have seen people who have lost job skills and I believe it's related to these injections by them.

Dr. Michael Nehls: Yeah, absolutely. I'll come to that in a second.

Mike Adams: Okay. I'm sorry.

Dr. Michael Nehls: No, you don't have to be sorry. It's really important but what all is also important is this happened already many, many years before, it started already decades before. Because, as I would show you maybe in this slide here, the function of these index neurons, these new nerve cells that are produced every day is not only memorizing our own thoughts or anything that we experience. They also have another function. They are the neuronal correlate of psychological resilience. And that's very…

Mike Adams: Mental health?

Dr. Michael Nehls: Yeah, that we are resilient to stress, stressful events. If they are not produced resilience goes down, which means that every live event that might make us angels that is maybe difficult to comprehend, would lead to depression. So, if we shut down the production of these cells, at the same time, depression rates go up. And to tell you in 2017, was the highest recorded depression rate on Earth ever 2017 already, in 2019, the World Health Organization said in the paper, now depression is the number one disease worldwide. That means in if you reverse the argument, and 2019 in summer, we had the lowest production rate of index neurons in the Hippocampus. Another thing that these cells do, they are the neuronal correlate of curiosity. If you shut down their production, animals stop being curious. They don't seek novelty anymore. Well, they're sit around and run-in circles, but they don't move around and roam around and check out their environment, which would be important for their survival. they wouldn't do that anymore.

Mike Adams: We see this in humans now. There's no curiosity. They watch the Super Bowl, basically. But there's no curiosity. Even journalists aren't curious about asking questions anymore but no curiosity.

Dr. Michael Nehls: But to be curious, you also have to have psychological resilience. Because when you are curious, you enter new space, new areas, and you might not like what you're seeing so if you don't, so you have to be prepared for that. You have to accept that the new information might be stressful. So, we need psychological resilience to be curious.

Mike Adams: Oh, this explains censorship. They don't want to be exposed to any new information that might cause psychological stress.

Dr. Michael Nehls: No, I think they want to stress us, but they have some other idea behind that. And I'll come to that in a second.

Mike Adams: Okay, why don't I mean, like the safe spaces of the political left.

Dr. Michael Nehls: Oh, I see.

Mike Adams: I want to have a safe space where they have no information that contradicts their current belief system. And in order to do that, they have to censor all other voices that might challenge that.

Dr. Michael Nehls: Yeah, it's difficult to accept different opinions if you have no resilience.

Mike Adams: Right? That's and then they say they're triggered, everybody's triggered now triggered by the slightest thing.

Dr. Michael Nehls: Yeah, the slightest thing that is reason could cause depression. Because you have no resilience. Actually, every antidepressant that is on this planet right now and distributed to people. Every antidepressant has only one function, essentially, that is activating adult hippocampal neurogenesis.

Mike Adams: Interesting.

Dr. Michael Nehls: So, if you block adult hippocampal neurogenesis in an animal, by chemicals by radiation by whatever, genetically, then no antidepressant would work anymore.

Mike Adams: Oh, interesting. So, the serotonin re uptake inhibition.

Dr. Michael Nehls:  Not work anymore.

Mike Adams: But it has it effects…

Dr. Michael Nehls: serotonin isn't active is it isn't is essentially a growth factor for neurogenesis.

Mike Adams: Got it. So, when they keep more serotonin concentrations flooded in the brain than it allows these cells to develop more?

Dr. Michael Nhels: Yeah. Do you have a higher rate.

Mike Adams: But then why is it that like when I grew up, we were all very we're resilient, we were outdoor kids, we didn't get triggered by anything. And that trait has stuck with people like myself, and perhaps you as well, and the people that we know. But then there's another segment of society that has lost the ability, apparently to generate these cells. What's going on?

Dr. Michael Nehls: I'll come to that in a sec.

Mike Adams: Oh, okay. I'm sorry.

Dr. Michael Nehls: I just want to make me finish very quickly what all the functions are of the cells, because once you understand that, you will understand the consequences of that much more deeply. So, the other thing that, of course, is that if you are curious, you make no experiences. And if you are making new experiences, if you're not doing the same thing all over again, every day, then you increase your individuality. And the broader your individuality is, the more your personality has personal experiences, the more creative you can be, yes. And the last thing that I discovered and trust, actually, in the process, hopefully to publish a paper, it's in the peer review process right now. In 2002, there was a Nobel Prize in what's called economics, given to an on and psychologist, Daniel Kahneman. And he discovered that we have two thinking systems, a very fast one, which acts smallest stereotypically, just doing repetitive what we always do, essentially, also working with, I would say, a behavior that is almost like genetic, like instinct. You know, for example, if you are have no resilience that comes something fearful, your instinct tells you go to the group.

Mike Adams: Right, find shelter and cognitive shortcuts. That mostly get the right answer quickly because you might have to make a decision quickly.

Dr. Michael Nehls: Exactly. But you're not thinking about it. Right. It's more like a reflex. And, but there's another system is called “System 2”, which requires energy and surreal thinking. And for this distinction, he got the Nobel Prize for this discovery, because in certain situations, it's better to think.

Mike Adams: Yeah, right, right. And economic policy.

Dr. Michael Nehls: The point is, the system one is always active. It's a default. That's how we work by default. System 2 has to be activated by gut feeling. You have to a gut feeling and emotional sensation, you need to activate your thinking process. But, the reason why it's not always active the thinking process is because it requires energy, mental energy. And it was unclear until recently, what is mental energy is, and I'm just in the process, I've just submitted the paper, while I show that these cells are the source of the mental energy.

Mike Adams: See, that's interesting. Also, because, you know, in evolutionary biology, the energy efficiency of the organism is strongly tied to its survival capabilities. Even though the human mind is an all-purpose computational system, it still requires a very high proportion of caloric energy. In order to function compared to other animals that have simpler brains.

Dr. Michael Nehls: 20% of our metabolic energy goes into the brain.

Mike Adams: So, if you're running your brain at 100%, all the time…

Dr. Michael Nehls: When I think it’s adapted to this 20%, because it was always 20%. And it was actually shown that doesn't matter if you think or if you don't think the mental energy that you use up is not much different.

Mike Adams: or the caloric energy is about the same.

Dr. Michael Nehls: Actually, it was a mistake up to like 10 years ago that people thought the mental energy required for System 2 function, that means for thinking is actually metabolic.

Mike Adams: But it's not?

Dr. Michael Nehls:  It's not.

Mike Adams: Oh, okay, okay. because I was thinking that too.

Dr. Michael Nehls: I was thinking that too, for a long time. But it was shown and I show it to my paper, and I'll show I'll show it in this book, actually, in the Indoctrinated Brain, it's something else. But you need to be able to put your thoughts, if you're thinking, if you invest in thinking, every detail of your thought process needs to be stored, and only the autobiographical memory can do that. So, but if you're running out of index neurons, then the syncing process will start overwriting previous experiences, and the brain tries to omit to avoid that.

Mike Adams: And then a person will say, it's just too hard to think that.

Dr. Michael Nehls: Yeah, that taking your term is ego depletion. And you might notice that I noticed that every day, I work hard mentally the whole day, I have a lot of System 2 activity during the day, writing a book a System 2, exploring new scientific ideas a System 2, read and social activities a System 2, and after a few hours, well, my index neurons are used up I feel that and I start to be what we call Eagle depleted and this would be my signal to go to bed and sleep and while I'm sleeping…

Mike Adams: Then during sleep…

Dr. Michael Nehls: You're asleep, the source essentially the energy exhausted number of new index neurons starts to grow. And then number is essentially as my new energy that I have for the for the next day, that's my theory and I'm hopefully being able to publish it.

Mike Adams: That is really fascinating.

De. Michael Nehls: So yeah, put it already in there as if it was essentially a proven task, but it's the mental source to think, so if you shut down this what I call here, this mental immune system, all these functions together our, our mental immune system, so if you want to attack people, and shut down to ability to resist what you want from them, you have to essentially only do one thing shut down the production of these nerve cells.

Mike Adams: That's interesting.

Dr. Michael Nehls: That's a target.

Mike Adams: Let me let me translate this to pop culture, please. And let me ask my producer, you remember in Star Wars, they were trying to explain the force like what, how the Jedi has the force. And I think in one of the later movies, they came up with something introduced the concept of, I think they call them midichlorians was supposed to be some kind of substance that Jedi had that would give them Jedi powers, I think, am I right? Oh, I can't I can't hear my produce. I don't have my earpiece. I think they call it midichlorians. Okay. And it was you know; it was just a made-up substance that gave you Jedi powers. And if you lost your midichlorians, you couldn't be Jedi anymore. But you're saying that that the neurogenesis of these index neurons gives you sort of these powers. I was almost wanting to call them superpowers, because it is pretty impressive.

Dr. Michael Nehls: It's a superpower. It's the superpower which made us the dominating species on this planet.

Mike Adams: Exactly.

Dr. Michael Nehls: Because we need our autobiographical memory, for example, to judge to learn other what other people's want how they behave, what how we have to interact. We have to use system you need System 2 to find out in a socially conflicting situation how to act best be killed. You know, so, we all our social skills are based on this mental immune system.

Mike Adams: I'm sorry, I rip but I'm just so curious.

Dr. Michael Nehls: Oh, no, of course I am. But it’s fun.

Mike Adams: What part of the brain does the simulates the world? Because there's, and I'm good at these doing physics simulations in the brain to consider like, if I do this, these things are going to happen. Or if this happens, this is going to happen. That surely there's like a simulation,

Dr. Michael Nehls: That’s Hippocampus.

Mike Adams: That's the Hippocampus.

Dr. Michael Nehls: Yeah. Because it's not only the, let's say, an image of the real space and time, so the Hippocampus ties all our memories, all everything that we experience in the space-time continuum. The four-dimensional space time continuum, essentially is represented by these index neurons. The space and the time neurons, but space and time, you know, and everything that happens in space and time, but even future events, plans, things that we plan become, essentially memorized by new index neurons. These are virtual space, new space and time nuerons of future events. And when we try to execute this future event, if we try to follow a plan, then this future space and time neurons become more and more active because we are closer to the goal.

Mike Adams: Wow! What about when dreaming because when you're dreaming, your brain is creating a simulated environment, including other characters and their dialogue. And it is projecting onto them their thinking, even though they're not real, but even the physics of the world everything, waterfalls, whatever, we think about the complexity of how the brain has to generate this simulated world.

Dr. Michael Nehls: Yeah, and make it conscious

Mike Adams: And bring it into your consciousness.

Dr. Michael Nehls: Yeah, and even if we dream, it's there. It's actually quite interesting. When you we must remember a dream when we wake up during a dream. Otherwise, wouldn't remember.

Mike Adams: A lucid dreaming.

Dr. Michael Nehls: Yeah, any dream if you have a nightmare and you wake up that's usually why dreams are usually not very happy dreams because the nightmare would maybe wake you up because it's not unbearable for you. What you what your experience.

Mike Adams: and you're saying in that moment, it's still in your consciousness and that’s how you…

Dr. Michael Nehls: It’s still in your consciousness. But it's also that the Hippocampus wakes up and the index neurons start to memorize the last part of the of the of the dream. That's why you always remember the end of the tree but never the beginning.

Mike Adams: Interesting. What about one time I woke up this happen once in my life that I remember many years ago, I woke up and couldn't remember who I was like, it's like all those neurons were frozen for a moment or something. And like, I did not know my identity or anything for a few seconds. And it was a terrifying moment, by the way, and then everything came flooding back on my memories of who I am.

Dr. Michael Nehls: It's almost like you booted a computer.

Mike Adams: It's like a reboot. Yeah.

Dr. Michael Nehls:  It's like a reboot. I do this actually, every morning. I mean, I am doing it consciously meanwhile, because I know how it works. And so, it's essentially, I have to remember myself, again. So, if you think about is the index neuron production is so essential for our mental health, mental immune system, as a way to interact with others, you can really compare it I mean, the name immune system might be interesting to explain. We have essentially two immune systems, we have one for micro-organisms, that's our physical immune system consisting of the multitude of our immune cells. And then we have an it's against micro-organisms, but in the micro world, when it's not the micro-organisms that actually bother us, it's usually micro-organisms and as you can imagine, they come usually on two legs.

Mike Adams: And they play mind games with this.

Dr. Michael Nehls: Yeah, absolutely. And the only way to counter their attacks against us and is essentially that we engage in thinking and is socially active. And it would go even a step further. It's not only the mental, its immune system of a single person, since the personality and curiosity and individuality is every human being is almost like an immune cell in itself. So, these cells in this age, human, create individuality, and all the individuals together have essentially a social immune system against a social attacks against the society.

Mike Adams: Well, no wonder thinking is under attack and individuality is under attack.

Dr. Michael Nehls: If you want to dominate a society, you have to attack the index during production in each individual.

Mike Adams: Wow, so, is that what fluoride in the water supply? Is that one of the things that suppresses it or what I mean?

Dr. Michael Nehls: Yeah, they actually inject stuff in meanwhile. That suppresses it and I'll come to that in a second.

Mike Adams: Okay. But I just want to make a note here that what you're talking about, which I think is really profound, is that the battlespace of our world right now is cognitive.

Dr. Michael Nehls: Yeah, it's happening here. It's happening in the Hippocampus.

Mike Adams: In the Hippocampus. That's where the warfare is taking place.

Dr. Michael Nehls: Essentially, the target of the war, this is where the war takes place.

Mike Adams: Because and this is why I would guess that we see like in the wars that we're having right now we're seeing around the world. The governments are no matter which side are pushing out just propaganda and lies constantly. There's no real information. But it's, it's all being pushed through controlled narratives. And through media that's designed to say to you don't think for yourself. Don't question anything, you're not an authoritative source here are the authoritative sources, you should trust them and believe them no matter what, which means don't think for yourself.

Dr. Michael Nehls: Yeah, it's even worse, I'll come to that in a second looks really even worse than that, and why this is happening, why they need to, check that only a certain amount of information, a certain level of information is actually coming through. It's about installing, essentially a new operating system in our brains. And this operating system shouldn't be in the be interfered by either previous knowledge or by alternative views. So, if you want to install a certain, if you want to modify the brain, and you want to have people with a certain modified brain, then you need to control what goes into the spring. That's, I think it's obvious.

Mike Adams: And that's where it's narrative control and censorship of alternative views. And you can't question the science etc.

Dr. Michael Nehls: Exactly. And we discussed already that I mentioned already, this happened already, years before I started years before. If the psychological resilience is down, we have a high likelihood of developing a depression. It's not the depression per se, but we cannot cope with life events on the road. And if we don't cope with them, well, then depression is more likely. So, depression is essentially a clinical marker for a reduction or a blocked neurogenesis. So, it's almost like a reverse relationship and It's torsul.

Mike Adams: This is why I never suffer from depression. I guess I just

Dr. Michael Nehls: You wouldn't.

Mike Adams: I've been blessed with like, really good neurogenesis or whatever.

Dr. Michael Nehls: Yeah, I mean, even if something really bad happens to you, I mean, it's good things that could really put everybody maybe in a depression, but it's more likely that you maybe I come out of it somehow

Mike Adams: I no joke about it.

Dr. Michael Nehls: No, I mean, many things happen in my life, which I don't like. I mean, a grandchild of mine was just born. And as someone lived only for five minutes, I mean, there wasn't really traumatic life event for the whole family. But I think we all had some kind of resilience. Still, we suffered no question. But I think we all learned something out of it, we came stronger out of it as a family.

Mike Adams: And that gets back to the resilience there.

Dr. Michael Nehls: And that's the resilience we need. And I show you actually why that's a compound out there. And the central compound, which actually was shown to help and you lose a family member to get over it better, not dropping into a fall into depression more likely, when you just take this compound, and it's a natural essential component come to that I will remember, my autobiographical memory will remember when we come to that.

Mike Adams: Okay, I want to know about that. But I can't help but ask another quick question. Why is it that there are very high IQ people out there, who are also extremely gullible?

Dr. Michael Nehls: Though the IQ is essentially measured by the number of things you can juggle in your short-term memory at the same time. And this takes place according to modern theory, in the frontal brain. And so, we can have a high IQ, even without an Hippocampus. I mentioned already Henry Molaison. He did without the Hippocampus; he was IQ tested. And his IQ was 112 like before.

Mike Adams: Interesting.

Dr. Michael Nehls: So, he didn't lose any IQ. So, IQ and System 2 thing, it has nothing to do with it.

Mike Adams: Interesting.

Dr. Michael Nehls: So even you even though maybe if you engage system to win, start singing a high IQ will be helpful, no matter what. But it doesn't mean that you engage system 2, if you don't have it, or if you're not willing to do that so thinking is possible, but not necessary for you to survive in our society. And, and most people with a high IQ, maybe have a, I don't know, maybe go to physics or whatever, study something. But then, at a certain point in life, maybe their work becomes routine, or the high level of progress, but it's not that they are curious about things. And they might have not the resiliency need to engage in real thinking, but which might be controversial when it's necessary.

Mike Adams: Got it.

Dr. Michael Nehls: Anyway, if you look at the growth of new nerve cells here and grow over 1.5%, we should expect the growth of Hippocampus on our whole life. So that would be the curve here, which is showing this in this graphic. This is Hippocampus volume, actually, the hippocampal volume of both hippocampi. When you are born, you have about three cubic centimeters, the 1.5 1.5 in a steep growth rate during up to adulthood. And then you have a one to 2% growth rate of the rest of your life. That will be natural. But if you look at gene bank data for let’s, say, 20,000, Brits, British people, which was done in 2019, that's the growth rate. It's actually a shrinkage rate.

Mike Adams: Wait, how was this determined?

Dr. Michael Nehls: They did. They looked essentially at the hippocampal volume at every age. And you see that at every age group, instead of having a bigger Hippocampus with growing age, becoming smaller.

Mike Adams: They're actually losing.

Dr. Michael Nehls: Yeah, we're losing one point first brain mass instead of ruining 1.45% of brain volume in the Hippocampus, we lose about 1.4%.

Mike Adams: That was British citizens?

Dr. Michael Nehls: Yeah. But it's it studies all over the world. It's just a very comprehensive study.

Mike Adams; Is that why the British military nothing works, the missiles don't launch and then others don't turn on the aircraft carriers?

Dr. Michael Nehls: I don't think we should maybe…

Mike Adam: Not, that you can put that one on me. Yeah, that's my comment. That's me making a joke.

Dr. Michael Nehls: Yeah. It's a funny joke. But to be perfectly honest, I think is what we would see in every nation because the reason for that is, is our lifestyle. And this doesn't differ too much from one country to the other.

Mike Adams: right. No, I would agree. In fact, I would almost hate to see that chart for Americans. Because I see what's happening.

Dr. Michael Nehls: Which calls hippocampal shrinkage, which is even more severe in Americans and for example, German Works on the Omega-3 index.

Mike Adams: The what?

Dr. Michael Nehls: Omega-3 index that's the amount of omega-3 fatty acids, required for compact froze and you can measure them in the blood. Yeah, I'm talking about Omega 3. I'm not talking about what you find in canola, you know.

Mike Adams: Right and like you're saying like an Omega-3 deficiency.

Dr. Michael Nehls: The omega-3 and the fatty acids which I'm talking about are the ones you find for salmon fish. EPA and DHA. And, and these two are you can be measured. And the percentage in the cell membrane of erythrocytes compared to all other fatty acids is the index. Okay and for some of the placenta in humans tries to produce about an index of 11% for the child that is growing in the womb 11% is the ideal. With 11%, you have the highest hippocampal volume.

Mike Adams: Oh no kidding.

Dr. Michael Nehls: 2% is not acceptable for life. You cannot live below 2%. Germans have allowed 4.5% on average, not 11. 4.5 and American society by 4%.

Mike Adams: And because we eat a lot of canola oil, not me, but I mean.

Dr. Michael Nehls: A Canola oil is that’s some of the problems that the industry tells us. Yeah, the US eat canola oil, there's Omega-3, because omega-3 is important. But the problem is humans cannot transform Omega-3 from canola oil into DHA.

Mike Adams:  Oh, interesting

Dr. Michael Nehls: Possible Well, it's possible about the percentage that is below 1%.

Mike Adams: Plus, we know the seed oils tend to be really inflammatory to the circulatory system as well and not just allergy.

Dr. Michael Nehls: Absolutely Anyway, just the consequences…

Mike Adams: this is frightening this chart.

Dr. Michael Nehls: The consequence of that is, of course, is and this is only the tip of the iceberg. We have a chronic exhaustion society. People are equal depleted already when they wake up in the morning because production is not going on over. We have major depression as the number one disease now, 2019. And Alzheimer's disease is now #3 or #4 worldwide as a cause of death. So, an Alzheimer's is a consequence of a decade long of several decades of suppressed neurogenesis. That's why it's a disease of the high age, because it takes too few decades before the Hippocampus is shrunk from too much. Actually the size of the Hippocampus, the smaller it is, the closer you are to Alzheimer's. Is there actually the size of Hippocampus is a biomarker for the progression of Alzheimer's.

Mike Adams: How many cubic centimeters is the Hippocampus normally?

Dr. Michael: Yeah, it's about five. As you see here in the curve. It's about 10 cubic centimeters for both of them. So about five to five and a half.

Mike Adams: Oh, interesting. Okay. Wow, such a small mass responsible.

Dr. Michael Nehls: Potentially sticking here That's why you have to upload every evening. It's almost like this UPS stick, you know, must be stick. I mean, USB stick, where are you can only memorize that you have uploaded something, but 100 memorize the content that you upload loaded, without having a problem to memorize new things the next day. You upload is very not necessary. This looks very esoteric, because this this chart here. But essentially, it's it shows all the areas in our life that are responsible for the growth of the Hippocampus.

Mike Adams: interesting.

Dr. Michael Nehls: Every area, we need a purpose in life, without a purpose in life, we wouldn't memorize new things. We wouldn't explore new things, we wouldn't be waking up in the morning and doing something novel, we need something that that pushes us a purpose. And when you have a purpose in life, then you'll give food essentially, memories to these new index neurons in this survive. We need social life social activity. And when you are socially engaged, even if you look in the eyes of your dog, it was measured that the oxytocin level goes up in your brain, but also in the dog's brain. Oxytocin is the most potent activator of neurogenesis that we know of.

Mike Adams: Is that right?

Dr. Michael Nehls: That means if you if you shut down social interaction, you reduce the oxytocin serotonin level. And the Hippocampus will shrink.

Mike Adams: Isn’t that the hormone between mother and child also cattle and everything?

Dr. Michael Nehls: Oxytocin is the hormone that actually activates the birth process.

Mike Adams: It spurs neurogenesis in the new osprey.

Dr. Michael Nehls: it's very important, but it's particularly in humans, you have to think about it. The child that is born, has no survival potential at all, if the mother wouldn't care for it, But the love of the mother, the child that the bonding requires memory, And the more the mother memorizes from these moments, the longer and more deeply is the bonding, as a stronger as the bonding and that's why oxytocin is so important. It has dual role at one time. If one function is to activate the birth process, the contraction of the uterus, at the other side, you have this activation of the memory center by producing more neurons that will make a lifelong bonding between the mother and the child.

Mike Adams: This is experienced by the mother as love for the child.

Dr. Michael Nehls: Absolutely

Mike Adams: A strong desire to protect my child, even though it's the same when you don't rationally know why.

Dr. Michael Nehls: When you bond with the parents come together men, or women or whatever, I know, nowadays, it's more everything is possible. But the point is, if you meet people, and you connect very closely, oxytocin is the bonding hormone. And every bonding relies on memory when you can't bond to anybody you can't remember, obviously.

Mike Adams: I wish I could selectively though, like, forget certain people. Another joke, but it's all even the traumatic memories are really critical for our formation of who we are and our experience.

Dr. Michael Nehls: Obsolutely.

Mike Adams: If we were to try to delete every bad thing that happened in our lives, we would probably make those same mistakes again, and we would not be who we are.

Dr. Michael Nehls: Wouldn't be a good thing no wouldn't have this dual purpose. Function of hormones you see in all in the whole charts here. For example, when you sleep, melatonin is responsible for deep sleep. At the same time, melatonin is anti-inflammatory, and activates neurogenesis during sleep.

Mike Adams: Interesting. It also fights COVID, by the way, seeing that, yeah, it's interesting.

Dr. Michael Nehls: I believe that and look at physical activity. In in former ages, in the Stone Age, when you had to grow out to survive your head, you don't even need to out and you go hunting or fishing and gathering of food, you have to remember where you have identified something where it was a danger where it was something you could eat. And so, it's clear that physical activity needs to a signal to the brain produce more nerve cells. Do you know how it works very easily? When you are physically active, you become stronger physically  your body produces growth hormone, irritability, and many, many hormones over does not have identified which are produced, which makes us physically stronger. At the same time, each one of them activates neurogenesis.

Mike Adams: Interesting.

Dr. Michael Nehls: Again, dual function. So, if you don't allow people to move around, you shut down Centralis hormonal production.

Mike Adams: And that's what happened during the lockdowns, the covid lock down.

Dr. Michael Nehls: If you'd make you couldn't even go to the gym, Mr. Ripley absolutely.

Mike Adams: They were blocking people from exercising. It was crazy.

Dr. Michael Nehls: So, make it very quick this is the perfect human life. This is you have adults, the grandparents that care for their kids or grandchildren, you have enough sleep as a child, you play with others, you go out in the sun, you jockey to sport, whatever you go walking around, you get your Vitamin D, you’re bond to your kids, you have social activity here, even stretching each other's back like this hobby and I think probably ends up doing. Yeah, that physical contact activates the oxytocin because we need food, you know, our hands have different food. And so, this is how it should be in a moment, make it short. This is when the Hippocampus is happy. That's why it's screen and this is reality. Yeah, more or less. It looks totally that's how,

Mike Adams: oh this, oh now, it's like…lacking of sleep.

Dr. Michael Nehls: That's why we don't eat enough fish.

Mike Adams: Of course, bad food, processed food, isolated…

Dr. Michael Nehls: people nothing to do sedentary lifestyles no sense. No purpose in life. And when you're older, in school, your kids are woken up at a time when they should sleep. We conform with our modern industrial life, and so forth, or we do multitasking, which is not a bad thing. Anyway, this is the cause of shrinkage. And then of course, we got chronic exhaustion and Alzheimer's. And this was already happening before 2020. In 2019, a study was done and it's really an interesting study was published in the New England Journal of Medicine. And it shows you how quickly the Hippocampus can shrink. There were eight people sent to Antarctica to a foreign expedition Researchers, but they measured the hippocampal volume and different areas of the Hippocampus and competitor group of eight people who stayed at home. And after 14 months, they did another measurement. And the shrinkage rate was dramatic.

Mike Adams: Really? just because of a lack of stimulation because they were isolate exactly indoor environment.

Dr. Michael Nehls: Do you see here in red er different areas of the campus in blue is the Hippocampus, the same area of the control group, you see the shrinkage rate. What I circled here is the frontal part of the Hippocampus.

Mike Adams: And what does that minus 10% almost?

Dr. Michael Nehls: Yeah, it's about 70% Absolute and even more relative a while. And that shrinking here is what this is a region that has shrunk here after 14 months is the area where the adult hippocampal neurogenesis takes place. A total shrinkage and the researcher who actually did all this work, said, for the hippocampal, shrinkage, two major factors seem to play an important role. The first is social isolation. The second is monotony. It was three months before the lockdown. And interestingly, he gave an interview few weeks a few weeks later, and here, he said, was something very funny. He said, with prison inmates in solitary confinement, I'm pretty sure we'd see the same thing. Similar. Okay. 3 months later, we were all in solitary confinement more or less.

Mike Adams: And which would have the same effect?

Dr. Michael Nehls:  which would have the same effect.

Mike Adams: So, by the by locking us down, the powers that be were able to zap people's individuality, creativity, cognition, memories, the ability to reason and navigate the world around them.

Dr. Michael Nehls: Exactly And that was 2020, the lock downs and all these things, but our way out of the lock downs was, yeah, the drop leaves and yeah, injection program this what I call the spiking program. And if you look what if you see this in context, I will show you now and I will also show you this small molecule, this essential nutrient, that will be very helpful to solve the problem. And I'll show this now in the next slide. And it's just takes me a few minutes, but I think it'd be…

Mike Adams: I want to hear about this.

Dr. Michael Nehls: So, the first thing that here would you see is all the time we were fear monger, you know, we were killing our parent, or parents or kids for killing their grandparents, if you don't obey the rules and it was always devastating, what would happen if we don't follow the rules. And, and so we had, what we experienced is what we call pre-traumatic stress. That was actually paper published by the Gates Foundation, a research paper showing that if you do fear mongering, you produce the same effects, like if you had experience, the traumatic event, in real life, when you try, when you experience a traumatic event, you develop what we call a post-traumatic stress syndrome. And the hallmark of post-traumatic stress syndrome betrayed besides strong depression, is the shrinkage of the Hippocampus. It's a hallmark, you have a very, very small Hippocampus, when you suffer under severe post-traumatic stress syndrome. And what the paper showed by the Gates Foundation, if you do fear mongering, the same thing will happen that he called it, they called it pre traumatic stress syndrome.

Mike Adams: And they probably called it a feature. like the mission accomplished.

Dr. Michael Nehls: and how it happens and how it works. A show here how you actually can do how fear mongering leads to a shrinking Hippocampus. And it works like this. The pre-traumatic neurotics neurotoxic stress in response to fear narratives leads to the leakage of molecules from the neurons into the extracellular space. And what's leaking here, molecules which shouldn't be outside of the neurons, and they are recognized by receptors immune cell receptors, as a signal that cells are damaged. No, it's all it's obvious, you know, even you have something outside of a cell which shouldn't be there and right okay, the cell must be damaged. And it's a danger receptor that recognizes it. And the leaked molecules, there are several different ones, heat shock proteins, ah ha high mobility group molecules which are used to control how the DNA is folded and so forth. To molecules we shouldn't be outside. Anyway, these molecules outside are called a DAMPS, Danger Associated Molecular Patterns. And they are recognized by receptor which is called TLR. Four. He is this receptor he is on an immune cell which I show here of in the brain, which is called microglia. Though they are stationary immune cells in the brain, which are essentially checking the brain that there is no toxin coming in that there is no bacteria coming in, no virus coming in that if there's a damage to the brain, activating the immune system to fight the damage or to fight the passage. Okay, so when heila Forest is activated by neurotoxic stress, it leads to cascade of events that ends in the nucleus of the cell, and it activates transcription of pro inflammatory cytokines.

Mike Adams: No kidding.

Dr. Michael Nehls: And the protein from our treasury cytokines that are produced like interleukin one beta, interleukin six, TNF, alpha, and many, many others. It's a long list. They all are known to be potent in activators blockers of neurogenesis in the Hippocampus.

Mike Adams: So, this is a cytokine storm in the brain.

Dr. Michael Nehls: It's a cytokine storm, it's actually the same cytokines that are produced by the spike protein in the body when you are not hav